Eason: Hey guys, welcome to the Chinese sovereignty podcast. I am your host Eason. This is the voicer of our first episode, which we will talk about the Hong kong protest that’s happening couple months. Today we have a very special guest hank joining us. Hank, have you heard of the Hong Kong protest that’s happening in Hong Kong?
Hank: For sure I do. I think what caught the most attention is not just the protest, it’s the violence that is happening in Hong Kong.
Eason: yes you are correct. Since the Hong Kong government proposed the extradition ordinance in March 2019. It suddenly triggered the protest. And soon, the protest turned from normal into extreme violent!
Hank: I have heard a lot of news for this issue. But I always receive different versions! Some people say the protesters are using violence to force the government to retract the ordinance, while some people say that the Hong Kong police is using violence oppress the protesters and be subservient to the government. Do you know what the truth is?
E: Actually…… I don’t really know! there are always different versions from different sources. But in our expert interview, we will invite Mr.Lam, a law teacher in sir Winston Churchill secondary who grew up in a Hong Kong family. He will reveal the truth for us. So please stay tuned for our expert interview. Goodbye and…….see you later.
What happened in Hong Kong about the protest for the past year? Why is the protest getting more and more violent? Let’s listen to our Episode I voicer and get to know more about it.
In our first episode, we will invite a teacher from our school who’s from Hong Kong to talk about the protests in Hong Kong. Our guest has a master degree in history from UBC and Simon Fraser University. We will ask him the following questions:
Are you aware of the Hong Kong protests?
What do you think triggered the Hong Kong protest?
Does Hong Kong being a British Colony change the way people view China?
Do you think there’s a way to resolve this issue between Hong Kong and China?
Segment #2
Hong Kong’s current status
In our next episode, we will talk about how Corona virus affected the Hong Kong protest.
Hong Kong previously stated they want China to stay out of their legal systems. However, the corona virus outbreak has led the people in Hong Kong to rely on China to supply them with face masks.
So are they neglecting China when they want to? What is going on inside their head? Do they want China to look over their shoulders, or do they seek independence? How will the coronavirus outbreak change future protests? Will the Hong Kong people use their saying “Hong Kong is not apart of China” in future protests?
Segment #3
How will China deal with the protests? Will Hong Kong and China ever settle their feud?
For this segment idea, we want to talk about Hong Kong and China in the future. Hong Kong will be governed by China in the year 2047, which is not long from now. What changes will be made in Hong Kong? Will Hong Kong embrace China’s legal systems, or will Hong Kong declare independence from China’s rule? What will happen to the families who have members living in Hong Kong and mainland China? We will dedicate one episode to share our thoughts on this issue.
Our first episode has came out! Let’s check it out on our home page!!!
These are streeter interviews that we did at Aberdeen in Richmond. Our question is: What do you think triggered the Hong Kong protest took place for the past few months?
The interviewer’s views on this subject vary depending on who they are and where they come from. Regardless of what their view on this is it shows what are people’s opinions on this.
Interviewer: We are now doing a podcast about the HK protest, and then I want to ask you a few questions. Actually one question, do you know what happened?
Streeter 1: I don’t know
Interviewer: Or what do you think caused the protest?
Streeter 1: I don’t really know.
Interviewer: Oh, ok Thank you.
NO 2:
Interviewer: What do you know about the HK protest?
Streeter 2: You’re the one that said one country two systems, but you went to control HK, so HK for sure will protest. Understand? Either you have one country, one system, but you cannot you are not able to make one country, one system now.
Interviewer: So what do you think of the actions that HK people did?
Streeter 2: They can rebel, but they can’t hurt their own people. Do you understand? For example, I am an HK citizen, so why are you hitting the HK police? They are part of HK citizens too right? You can’t go to the mainland, and the mainland people can’t come to HK, so there’s no point for you people to rebel. I think it’s a waste of time. The communist party is afraid to go to HK right? And HK people can’t go out too. I don’t even know what they are doing.
Interviewer: Ok, thank you
Streeter 2: No problem.
NO 3:
Interviewer: What do you know about the HK protest?
Streeter 3: The Extradition Law. They want to get the man back to Taiwan for conviction. And then the politician and the people who want HK to be independent use this topic to start chaos. If one time doesn’t work then, the second time will be worse. So, in the end, they will throw rocks, and then upgrades to throwing gas bombs and many other ways. There are foreigners at the side to command, they show hand signals. One person at the front teaching people at the side what to do, and people at the back use hand signals to tell people what to give to the front. They have a set of hand signals, for example, they want an umbrella, they will do this. If they want bricks, they will do this hand signal. And then they pass it one by one. Just like one person digging over here another person digging over here, and then the people pass it to the front one by one with human hands. And then the final person stands in the middle of the road and throw it one by one. So then they jam the roads. And then they throw the gas bombs towards the police headquarters, police stations, the Hong Kong Liaison Office, and some China invested organizations. If they want to take any action, they say it on the internet, and they separate the work very precisely, just like a trained army. Whoever does the copywriting, they do it. People who are good on the internet, they do text propaganda. People who can fight goes to the front line. They all separate the work. When I went back to China around November, I can’t even go on the street, they do this every night because I live in Mong Kok, I go back to the hotel as soon as I finish eating dinner, too afraid to go out. And I can’t even take a taxi, because they block the road at about that time, and you don’t even know which road they are going to block. Some people stand at the intersection of the road looking at the situation and do their assigned jobs. I don’t know what they want to get out of this, because what they want is absolutely impossible. If I want you to do something that you are not able to do, can you do it? This is nonsense.
Interviewer: Thank you.
Streeter 3: No problem.
Interviewer: Are you aware of the HK protest right now?
Streeter 4: Yes
Interviewer: Do you know what caused the event?
Streeter 4: Umm, not very clearly, I’ve done slight research on it, but I have only got some perspective on it
Interviewer: So do you know what is the relationship between China and HK right now?
Streeter 4: I know the bases of it, like how they have a relationship they are part of China but not really part of China. And like because the government is trying to merge HK into China but HK is resisting it from my understanding.
Interviewer: Ok, thank you for your interview, thank you.
This episode is we will have a discussion on Hong Kong protest and our interview is with Mr.Lam, a law teacher at Sir Winston Churchill Secondary. We will relate the situation with the political stance of Hong Kong and the history.
The reason why we choose these sounds is because they are unique to Hong Kong. They can let listeners relate to the event just like they are taking part in the event.
Hong Kong traffic light beeping (This sound is good because the sound of Hong Kong traffic light is very unique, this can lead people think of Hong Kong instantly.)
Recording of Cantonese speaking (This sound is good because everyone speaks Cantonese in Hong Kong, so it lead people think of either Hong Kong or mainland China.)
Taiwanese style of Chinese speaking (This sound is good because there’s a difference in accent and dialogue between the way that mainland Chinese people and Taiwanese and Hong Kong people talk even in the same language.)
Protesters throwing gas bombs (This sound is good because it’s audio of what was happening during the protests, this can make people feel like they are part of the protest.)
Police whistles (This sound is good because during the protests the cops were blowing whistles to stop the protesters, this can show the power of the police/government.)
Classic Cantonese songs (This sound is good because Cantonese song is a big proportion of their entertainment.)
Taiwan songs (This sound is also good because it shows the culture of the Taiwanese population with music.)
National anthem (This sound is good because it’s the national anthem of China and it shows the patriotism of the mainland Chinese population. Our podcast is mainly about China, so this can represent our topic really well.)
Subway sound (This sound is good because during the protests the protesters had vandalized subways and it adds to the feeling of being in the subway.)
Question: Have you caught up with the news about what is happening in Hong Kong?
Interviewer: You want all charges dropped against protesters who’ve been arrested and the government turned that down.
HK Protester: Yes.
Interviewer: But how could they do anything else if you are found to have broken the law? You should be punished the same way as the police shouldn’t you? So why are you above the law?
HK Protester: So why aren’t they punishing the police?
Interviewer: They have, in the past police have been held into court and punished.
HK Protester: We can not even identify the police because they are not showing their warrants because they are not showing the numbers when we cannot hold the police accountable when nobody can actually punish the police, it could be charing out creditors with rioting even though they are only participating in some peaceful marches, that is not reasonable.
Interviewer: You consider yourselves equal before the law with everybody else, do you?
HK Protester: We are equal before the law.
Interviewer: So why should you get an amnesty? Why? If you’ve broken the law and the HongKong Bar Association the HongKong law Society’s seen to indicate that you have broken, shouldn’t you be punished for breaking the law?
HK Protester: I believe asking for amnesty would be the best solution too.
Interviewer: I thought you’d be somebody upholds the rule of law in HongKong.
HK Protester: Yes we want to create a law-based society with fairness.
Interviewer: But at the same time you want an amnesty? You want to escape punishment for breaking the law and all kinds of things that are in a society, then what kind of society do you want to live in?
HK Protester: I would not say that is trying to escape from being punished when we have broken the law, I believe the reason why protesters are taking on the streets this is because we want the government to be accountable to us. We want the government to give concrete actions as most out demands, and I believe that’s why we are participating in peaceful marches, lawful marches, ever since June. However, the government the police had been accusing us has been arresting us for rioting, and when the reason why they’re arresting us is not reasonable at all, how can they charge us?
Interviewer: So you think breaking shops’ glasses and fighting people that don’t agree with what you are thinking is not breaking the law?
HK Protester: I think they are forced by what the government has done.
Interviewer: Anyway, thank you for your interview.
1. In a letter addressed to Chinese leader Xi Jinping after he threatened military force against Taiwan in a New Year’s speech, representatives of dozens of indigenous tribes said that Taiwan had never belonged to Communist-ruled China.
2. One China signifies the diplomatic reality whereby almost all governments and international institutions recognize only the People’s Republic of China and not Taiwan, and Beijing’s One China Principle explicitly states that Taiwan is a part of the country.
3. Three years ago, there was a rare vague formulation that acknowledge the Chinese position—that is, taking note but not ‘recognizing’ or accepting it—which allows them the flexibility to pursue unofficial but robust relations with Taipei,” flurry of global interest in Taiwan and the phrase “One China,” when Donald Trump spoke on the phone with President Tsai shortly after he won the US presidential election.
4. She suggests that countries like the US could instead use the formulation “our One China policy” to indicate the difference between its position and that of Beijing.
5. Trump declared then that he did not want to be “bound by a ‘one China’ policy” and suggested that he might use the issue as a bargaining chip in trade negotiations with Beijing
Direct:
1 “The US and Australia have adopted “vague formulations that acknowledge the Chinese position—that is, taking note but not ‘recognizing’ or accepting it—which allows them the flexibility to pursue unofficial but robust relations with Taipei,”
2. Mark Harrison: ……“describe a world of US hegemony, the Cold War, a rising China, and US-China relations,”
3. Using inaccurate language to talk about Taiwan is to unwittingly “erase Taiwan’s democracy and very different development” to other East Asian countries, said Lev Nachman.
Generate a list of questions that might have been asked to get the quotations you identified
Indirect
Did Xijin Jinping mention anything about Taiwan in his New Year’s celebration speech?
Do you think that Taiwan is impactful in this world?
Do you know any impactful people who have commented on Taiwan and China
Do you think Donald Trump is on China’s side?
What does Trump think about the “ One China” policy?
Direct
1. What do you think is the most common precipitation in Taiwan?
2. How would you describe the relationship between China and the US?
3. Why do you think East Asia Countries are confused about the facts of Taiwan?
Generate a list of questions that you would ask if given the opportunity
Indirect:
What you think Xi Jinping’s intention is when speaking about this on The New Year’s celebration speech.
Do you think the “One China” policy is successful for the Chinese?
Why do you think Trump did not acknowledge the Chinese position?
What is the concept of “One China” policy in the US
Do you think the US is going to use this as a piece of evidence when the US is doing trade with China?
Direct
Do you think this is a smart idea for Australia when they answer the question but did not actually “answer” the question?
What do you think about the relationship between China and the US right now?
When “erase Taiwan’s democracy and very different development”, do you think they are erasing Taiwan’s future?
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